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 JBA OWNERS Club, Australia Newsletter 4, 
July 2002.

 

 

 
 

About Brake Fluid

Sourced from the web on www.tirekingdom.com

 www.howstuffworks.com & www.vtr.org

Have you ever thought about the things that save your lives, such as brake fluid? When you depress your foot on the brake pedal, it pushes on a piston which forces brake fluid into your master cylinder, which is then amplified through brake lines to your wheel cylinders, which force your brake pads against either the drums or rotors. This friction forces your car to come to a slow or fast halt depending on the pressure exerted.

The friction created by this motion can build up to a point that can allow the brake fluid to boil. Over time the heat generated from braking causes the chemical composition of the brake fluid to change. Gases that are produced can cause your brakes to feel spongy.

DOT3 and DOT4 type brake fluids are made from Polyalkalene Glycol Ether, which has a strong attraction to water. They also like to eat paintwork.  Water contaminating brake fluid however, causes the boiling point (BP) of the fluid to reduce. DOT3 has a BP of 441OF and DOT4 of 446OF.

DOT 5 on the other hand has a boiling Point of 500OF. The other advantages that DOT 5 brake fluid has is that it is silicone based and as such does not mix well with water. This maintains a high BP and allows better performance. It also does not eat your paint if spilled.

However before going out and changing you brake fluid, you need to be aware of all of the issues associated brake fluid. Because water mixed with DOT 3 & 4 it just weakens the mixture, whereas with DOT 5 it will allow a reservoir of water to sit against your callipers and/or master cylinder which will allow it to rust quicker. Also water has a BP of 2120F, which means that if a pocket sits against your callipers, a vapour lock could form much quicker and cause failure to occur at a much faster rate.  Additionally DOT 5 costs more and is NOT compatible with DOT 3 & 4. Some experts say DON’T mix DOT types at all when you are topping up your brake reservoir or changing your fluid.

Please note that the issues discussed in this article are taken from the Web and their accuracy cannot be verified. They are meant to allow for further meaningful discussion and research by members. Always seek clarification from an expert

Rod’s a winner

Rod Priestly is the lucky winner of a bottle of Chardonnay, just for filling in and returning his questionnaire by the due date.

Congratulations Rod!!!

What you said you wanted from the club!

We had a 25 % response to our questionnaire, which I guess those that have been in it for a while would say, “Comes of no surprise”.

I guess the biggest surprise is that nearly all that sent back the questionnaire wanted the good old car rally to be geared up, with the next item being the continuation of the cobweb runs. We’ll see what we can do.

Pre-published Cobweb runs, family days and club clothing were a nicety but there was no strong feeling about them. There was a definite NO to movies and other organised events of that nature, along with an absence of volunteers.

I would like to say thank you to those that took part in this questionnaire and hope that we can fulfil the clubs needs over the next couple of years.

We did have a suggestion to have impromptu nights for builders who wanted to get a bit of help and encouragement with their unfinished projects. If this is you, please contact me at home and I will see what I can arrange for you.

Remember measure twice… and cut once.

 

 

More records tumble- 4 internal and 24 external whilst building the JBA. If you’ve got a story to tell let me know, it may make news of the month

About Brake Fluid

Sourced from the web on www,tirekingdom.com, www.howstuffworks.com&www.vtr.org

Have you ever thought about the things that save your lives, such as brake fluid? When you depress your foot on the brake pedal, it pushes on a piston which forces brake fluid into your master cylinder, which is then amplified through brake lines to your wheel cylinders, which force your brake pads against either the drums or rotors. This friction forces your car to come to a slow or fast halt depending on the pressure exerted.

The friction created by this motion can build up to a point that can allow the brake fluid to boil. Over time the heat generated from braking causes the chemical composition of the brake fluid to change. Gases that are produced can cause your brakes to feel spongy.

DOT3 and DOT4 type brake fluids are made from Polyalkalene Glycol Ether, which has a strong attraction to water. They also like to eat paintwork.  Water contaminating brake fluid however, causes the boiling point (BP) of the fluid to reduce. DOT3 has a BP of 441OF and DOT4 of 446OF.

DOT 5 on the other hand has a boiling Point of 500OF. The other advantages that DOT 5 brake fluid has is that it is silicone based and as such does not mix well with water. This maintains a high BP and allows better performance. It also does not eat your paint if spilled.

However before going out and changing you brake fluid, you need to be aware of all of the issues associated brake fluid. Because water mixed with DOT 3 & 4 it just weakens the mixture, whereas with DOT 5 it will allow a reservoir of water to sit against your callipers and/or master cylinder which will allow it to rust quicker. Also water has a BP of 2120F, which means that if a pocket sits against your callipers, a vapour lock could form much quicker and cause failure to occur at a much faster rate.  Additionally DOT 5 costs more and is NOT compatible with DOT 3 & 4. Some experts say DON’T mix DOT types at all when you are topping up your brake reservoir or changing your fluid.

Please note that the issues discussed in this article are taken from the Web and their accuracy cannot be verified. They are meant to allow for further meaningful discussion and research by members. Always seek clarification from an expert

 

Trinkets on the Web 

Have you had a look recently on the web for articles on JBA’s? If you had you will see that there are a number of sites of interest including my latest web page. You will find my JBA site at the following address:
http://home.ipirimus.com/stevenec
 

Also attached to this site is Robbie’s Scottish site which will take you all over the UK and back to Oz. Take a look, it’s inspiring. It also has a huge array of other JBA’s and sites.

The past few Cob Web Runs. 

Lorraine advises that the CWR in May was by far the best this year, so far. The contingent of cars in all shades of the rainbow meandered its way up to the swan valley to a shady little spot at the Valley View Restaurant, for morning tea. 

It was noted that the day was so good that sitting at traffic lights wanting people to notice you was the order of the day. 

Unfortunately June was a wet month and I did not see that one either. I assume that it was too wet for most members. 

Special run September 29…Mark it in your diaries 

We were going to have a Christmas in July, but that has come and gone. Instead we will be arranging a breakfast by the sea in spring. So mark it in your diaries and look out for more information in the next Newsletter due at the beginning of September.

 

 


What Does JBA stand for..

 I have had so many people ask me what JBA stands for and even our older members can’t give me the correct advice or just plain forget because its not that important to them. Well I have researched the meaning in my old files and come up with the following from Robbie Gibson’s archives.  

JBA is the first letter of the last names of the three British Leyland engineers, who started their own company and designed the JBA custom built car. Ken Jones, John Barlow and Dave Ashley.

No Second Chance 

I had the chance to ring Murray the other day only to get a massive amount of undecipherable garbage coming from the other end of the phone (in his charming way)… Apparently some one in at the DPI changed the rules on getting your car registered and as from July 1, you now only have one go at registering your car. 

Otherwise it’s off to the check out to get another certificate/appointment and to pay again, even if it is on the same day. 

Calander of Club events

Important Dates 

July 28 – Cob Web Run

August 25 – Cob web Run – maybe along the beaches

September 29 – BREAKFAST

October 27 – Cob Web to the hills

November  24 – The Swan Valley

Remember the above are ideas only... just meet at the No. 4 Car park near the causeway at 9.00 AM and make up a run yourselves.  If it’s not raining I’ll be there.

 


Council of Motoring Clubs (Previously Combined Car Clubs) Events Calendar.

Aug         4              Winter Trials – navigation trials

                10-11       AHMF National meeting - Perth

           19            CMC AGM – Jag Clubrooms

                         Sept         5              Pub to pub sprint – York                                   

15                  European Car & M/C Day

       15            AMC Western Nationals Ramblers

20-22          Burswood Casino classic rally

29                  Boyanup British Auto Classic

         Oct          5              CMC Sports Register Motokhana

21            CMC General Meeting

                27            BMC Leyland Aust. Day

                31 – 3 Nov             Rally Australia

If you want to know more about any of these events, please ring either Murray or Sue. We’ll get you in touch with one of the club members.


Our New President 2004

Murray Fraser 
Fraser Auto Sports Tourers, 
12 Bowen Street, O'Connor, Western Australia 6163. 
Phone (08) 9314 7023.

 


Copyright © JBA Owners Club Australia 2004.

 

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Safe Driving All the Best Regards Robbie.

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